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Four things the MXO5 oscilloscope does faster than any other scope
The Rohde and Schwarz MXO5 is the fastest-performing oscilloscope on the market--even when all 8 channels are active! Bald Engineer checks out the precise trigger, ridiculously fast update rate, and a serial decode feature he missed with his review MXO4 review. Check out what is new with the MXO5, how it compares to the MXO4, and some new features available on
both.
Learn more about the R&S MXO5: bald.ee/mxo5
MXO4 Review: ua-cam.com/video/UmFTR4v7M1Y/v-deo.html
Apple II Clock Glitch: ua-cam.com/video/ZWf8t_mHocM/v-deo.html
Get show notes at: bald.ee/ao-mxo4v5
Patreon: patreon.com/baldengineer
Discord: bald.ee/discord
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Workbench Wednesdays: bald.ee/wbw
Video produced by James Lewis (@baldengineer): baldengineer.com
Chapters
00:00 Intro
00:34 MXO5 Overview
01:22 Who is MXO5 For?
02:17 MXO4 vs MXO5
03:30 Sample Rates
03:52 Update Rate Tests
04:12 Real-Time Waveform Math
05:10 Four Fast FFTs (Title bait)
05:43 Real-Time Math and FFT Together
06:15 Measurement Track
06:49 Math Editor
07:17 Dual-Path Protocol Analysis
07:52 Impossible Protocol Measurement (on other scopes)
08:20 Zone Trigger! (Just Kidding)
08:36 Review
#mxo #electronics #oscilloscope
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Bald Engineer Apology 2024 (April 1)
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This is a very difficult video to upload. I have repeatedly stated a part of my electronics history, but new evidence has come to light to suggest I may have been lying. In this video, I come forward with the truth. I sincerenly hope you can accept my apologies. Patreon: patreon.com/baldengineer Discord: bald.ee/discord Instagram: baldengineer X: X.com/addohms Workbench Wednesdays...
Uncovering the Apple II's Mysterious (and Intentional) Clock Glitch
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The Apple II's CPU clock has jitter or a glitch. This issue is not new-it has been present since its original design in 1977! Bald Engineer uses an oscilloscope to show how often the glitch occurs and how to correlate that jitter to its source-which is useful when you are not testing 40-year-old devices. The device under test (DUT) in this video is the Mega IIe project. It's a fully compatible ...
8 *Must-Try* features in KiCad 8
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KiCad 8 just dropped, and here are Bald Engineer's eight must-try features! The February 2024 release brings a whole host of new stuff to the Schematic editor. However, the PCB editor, CLI, and Simulation tools also received attention. (There are something like 900 closed issues for the 8.0.0 Milestone!) Which of these is your favorite? #kicad #schematic #pcb KiCad Links: KiCad 8 Announcement: ...
R&S MXO 4 - Next Gen Scope - Hands-On Review and First Impressions
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The "world's fastest oscilloscope" title now belongs to the Rohde & Schwarz MXO 4. It can acquire over 4.5 million waveforms per second and process 45,000 FFTs per second. (Though I only got the FFTs to about 30,000 per second...) It features the lowest dead time between triggers of any oscilloscope on the market. R&S gave Bald Engineer an early look at this next-generation oscilloscope. See ho...
Copy/Paste hack for KiCad 6 | KiCad Quick Tips #03
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#schematic #kicad #pcb KiCad 6 has a very cool trick for copying and pasting elements. When you copy *anything* it copies to your OS's clipboard as plain text. So, you can paste it into a text editor, modify it, and then paste it BACK into KiCad! How cool is that? Here is two ways to use the text-based copy/paste in KiCad 6 . 00:34 Copy Between Instances 00:56 Individual to Multi-Sheet 01:18 Te...
INSert Labels and wires with one key! | KiCad 6.x Quick Tips #2
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INSert Labels and wires with one key! | KiCad 6.x Quick Tips #2
Get from Schematic to PCB Faster | KiCad 6.x Quick Tips
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Get from Schematic to PCB Faster | KiCad 6.x Quick Tips
Learn Oscilloscope Basics with an Arduino Uno and RTM3004 | AddOhms #28
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Learn Oscilloscope Basics with an Arduino Uno and RTM3004 | AddOhms #28
Capacitive Touch with TI's CapTIvate Dev Kit | AO #26
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Capacitive Touch with TI's CapTIvate Dev Kit | AO #26
DIY Arduino Turn-On and Debug | AddOhms #27
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DIY Arduino Turn-On and Debug | AddOhms #27
Picking Pull-Up Resistor Values | AO #25
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Picking Pull-Up Resistor Values | AO #25
DIY Arduino PCB Design in KiCad (Pyramiduino)
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DIY Arduino PCB Design in KiCad (Pyramiduino)
DIY Arduino Schematic in KiCad | AddOhms #23
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DIY Arduino Schematic in KiCad | AddOhms #23
Voltage Dividers as Regulators ?! | AO #22
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Voltage Dividers as Regulators ?! | AO #22
Brushless DC Motors (BLDCs) Introduction | AO #21
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Brushless DC Motors (BLDCs) Introduction | AO #21
Fix a Laser Cutter with a Light Saber! | AddOhms Short Film
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Fix a Laser Cutter with a Light Saber! | AddOhms Short Film
Electronics Questions and Answers | AddOhms QA #02
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Electronics Questions and Answers | AddOhms QA #02
Brushed DC Motors | AddOhms #20
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Brushed DC Motors | AddOhms #20
Which way does Current Flow | AO #19
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Which way does Current Flow | AO #19
Switching Voltage Regulator (Buck, Boost) Introduction | AO #18
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Switching Voltage Regulator (Buck, Boost) Introduction | AO #18
Linear Voltage Regulators (LM7805) | AO #17
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Linear Voltage Regulators (LM7805) | AO #17
Let's Build: XL741 - AO #16
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Let's Build: XL741 - AO #16
Pull Up Resistor Tutorial | AddOhms #15
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Pull Up Resistor Tutorial | AddOhms #15
An Open Letter to Arduino LLC and Arduino SRL #OneArduino
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An Open Letter to Arduino LLC and Arduino SRL #OneArduino
VirtualBench Overview | AddOhms #14
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VirtualBench Overview | AddOhms #14
10,000 Subscribers! (and 2 more AddOhms Announcements)
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10,000 Subscribers! (and 2 more AddOhms Announcements)
How Voltage Dividers Work | AddOhms #13
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How Voltage Dividers Work | AddOhms #13
Unboxing Raspberry Pi B+ | AddOhms #12
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Unboxing Raspberry Pi B | AddOhms #12
MOSFETs and How to Use Them | AddOhms #11
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MOSFETs and How to Use Them | AddOhms #11

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  • @robertlove7607
    @robertlove7607 День тому

    I have a question. At 2:27 , If I were to measure from the resistor side of the switch to ground with multimeter set to measure DC volt, would I read 5 VDC? Second quesion. If the wire leading to the switch were somehow to get grounded, would the input show as on? I.E. same as if the the switch were closed?

    • @AddOhms
      @AddOhms День тому

      Yes. The voltage drop from the resistor side to ground is 5 volts, which is the point of the pull-up. Since the resistor is connected to effective open, the voltage relative to ground is the same on both of the resistor's terminals. For the second question, a wire connecting from that same point to the ground is exactly the same as the switch being closed.

  • @clttech3903
    @clttech3903 5 днів тому

    One question so is the light flashing in DC?😅

    • @AddOhms
      @AddOhms 5 днів тому

      If it is an LED bulb, yes.

  • @BehexagusTheGreat
    @BehexagusTheGreat 6 днів тому

    So a car fuse would be DC, right..?

    • @AddOhms
      @AddOhms 6 днів тому

      Almost all of a car’s electrical is DC.

  • @christy7557
    @christy7557 14 днів тому

    How to connect 2 pin into 1 pin using label ?

    • @AddOhms
      @AddOhms 14 днів тому

      Give them the same label.

  • @michaelallen1432
    @michaelallen1432 18 днів тому

    My favorite new feature is Arm Windows support. I can run it on my surface pro x.

  • @carlosalexandremartins7072
    @carlosalexandremartins7072 20 днів тому

    I would like to know if the process is the same for the atmega 2560? If I can use the same components used in the video?

    • @AddOhms
      @AddOhms 20 днів тому

      Probably. Just follow the Arduino schematic for the Mega 2560.

  • @annwong2403
    @annwong2403 20 днів тому

    Do you have the video like this one but using Tektronic TDS model oscilloscope instead?

  • @thedoctorate
    @thedoctorate Місяць тому

    Thank you!

  • @bondman07052
    @bondman07052 Місяць тому

    how did some one a hundred years ago figure out that the AC was actually flickering at 60X per second ??

  • @campursarian1977
    @campursarian1977 Місяць тому

    Remember to check your shorts... 🩳

  • @billycen9501
    @billycen9501 Місяць тому

    +2

  • @sveabryan9126
    @sveabryan9126 Місяць тому

    Is one current safer than the other? For example, running a refrigerator in a or Air Conditioner in a shed that is hooked up to a power bank or generator.

  • @breedj1
    @breedj1 Місяць тому

    Great scope. But I thought this is more of a hobbyist channel. I do not think people who buy these kind of scopes watch this channel. So why bother making this video. Make one of a 12 bit Rigol or Siglent instead.

    • @AddOhms
      @AddOhms Місяць тому

      Topics and intent can change over time. If Rigol, Siglent, or anyone else, offers to send something interesting to show off, I’ll show it. To date, they haven’t.

  • @Ste_Doc
    @Ste_Doc Місяць тому

    bellissimo video complimenti, spero ne farai molti altri sull'uso dell'oscilloscopio .

  • @dalewheat
    @dalewheat Місяць тому

    Sounds like a great piece of test equipment for the bench, but it’s sad that you have to still pay extra to get the proper Nixie tube display integrated :D. Thanks for an interesting and useful video.

  • @maxxgunner5573
    @maxxgunner5573 Місяць тому

    HIGH! VOLTAGE! Rock n Roll!

  • @alirezamirghasemi
    @alirezamirghasemi Місяць тому

    keep switching regulators away from analog components

  • @johnf4085
    @johnf4085 Місяць тому

    this was a good video. But the key thing, to me, is that you said R&S will release a firmware update to allow 4 FFTS on the MXO4. The MXO4 might be in my job's budget. & Ill poke around a bit & see if this firmware update applies to the MXO3 for example. EDIT: I just assumed the mxo3 exists, it doesnt. I dont see one on their site

  • @evgeniyevstratov1198
    @evgeniyevstratov1198 Місяць тому

    words on this video's thumbnail persuade me that this is the most appropriate place to say that there are three grades of thermoelectric elements: pelty, Peltier, The Peltiest. I'm done

  • @dMajo_IT
    @dMajo_IT Місяць тому

    I think your rummors are correct about the Zone button. I have heard others that will add the 4xFFT to the MXO4 also, very soon ;)

    • @dMajo_IT
      @dMajo_IT 19 днів тому

      Here we go ... Zone trigger and 4xFFT on MXO4 since a couple days with firmware V2.2 (... and a couple new decode ptrotocols QuadSPI and ARINC)

  • @andymouse
    @andymouse Місяць тому

    Oh hell I haven't seen that teardown ! I felt your pain ! This is great 'eye candy' but out of my league....cheers!

    • @AddOhms
      @AddOhms Місяць тому

      The teardown was in an MXO4 full review when that one came out. I did not, however, include the dropping clip in that one.

    • @andymouse
      @andymouse Місяць тому

      @@AddOhms Lol ! :)

  • @KF7JO
    @KF7JO Місяць тому

    Some of the high end oscilloscope manufacturers can display the waveform update rate on the screen (usually hidden by default), and some even report blind time as a percentage. Every digital oscilloscope manufacturer has fairly fast update rates in their nominal state (one channel, simple edge trigger, no math or advanced processing). But as soon as you add on a serial pattern trigger that gets executed as an offline trigger/search in software rather than running in hardware in real time with the acquisition system, the update rate drops several orders of magnitude. It would be awesome if the scope could draw the user's attention to this (highlight the lower waveform update rate and higher blind time), and also tell you why the measurement is slow and how to avoid the slowdown. For example, with an interleaved ADC, you may experience a slowdown when measuring channel 1 and 2 simultaneously. But if you move your probe from channel 2 to channel 3, which is connected to a different ADC, the measurement can run at twice the speed, sample rate, bandwidth, or waveform update rate. Oscilloscope manufacturers don't generally publish their high level block diagram architectures in the firmware, context help, user manual, or datasheets, and even if they did, most electrical engineers don't spend enough time with any one scope to demystify implementation details. Having the scope tell you "I can only run 2 hardware-accelerated math channels on channels 1-4; disable the extra math channels or move some of your probes over to channels 5-8 to get another 2 hardware-accelerated math channels. Or "Currently using SPI decode software trigger. Consider using hardware accelerated version of this trigger for faster measurements. <Fix>"

    • @AddOhms
      @AddOhms Місяць тому

      I agree with your concept. I wrote it down as feedback, but I can already see the issue of detecting and making those suggestions. It would be interesting if scopes could show a block diagram and highlight where the bottleneck is. So maybe, it wouldn't directly say: "use channels 1 and 4 for Math2" but you could see that the "math block" is getting processed in software.

    • @KF7JO
      @KF7JO Місяць тому

      ⁠@@AddOhmswaveform update rate is an awesome spec, but if an engineer can't figure out how to achieve that update rate in the lab, then it's just a marketing tool to get someone to buy a scope based on specs. And as we've seen, peak waveform update rate isn't a good predictor for misused waveform update rate. If you buy a scope capable of 10M waveforms per second versus 1M waveforms per second, you can't necessarily expect 10x faster waveform rate when you've configured both scopes in a non-ideal manner. That 10M scope may drop down to a slow software accelerated 6k waveforms per second, while the 1M scope may drop down to 100k waveforms per second, having not have had hardware acceleration to begin with, and the manufacturer got around that problem by putting in a faster CPU or wrote faster software algorithms. A fast update rate is useless if you don't know how to configure the scope for it. It's not a small undertaking to detect when there might be a better way to make a similar measurement. The more the software allows non-expert to use the scope optimally, the better. Sure, including a highlighted block diagram showing the current signal path would be a great start to that. I remember the RTP having both a hardware accelerated and software accelerated trigger decode mode, and (at the time) the GUI didn't make it very clear which was which, so even an experienced T&M AE would have a hard time remembering how to configure the faster measurement, let alone the electrical engineer in the lab whose also juggling the software control and quirks of their DUT, their probes, and the rest of their complex test setup. But hey, at least we're talking about how important waveform update rate is. Let's just make sure that the marketing claims gets translated to real world lab results. Now about that SCPI recorder...

    • @AddOhms
      @AddOhms Місяць тому

      Sigh. You’re right. Where is that SCPI recorder at…😉

    • @klausfortschbeck8369
      @klausfortschbeck8369 Місяць тому

      Very nice conversation here. Thanks for the input. I work with R&S as a Sales Engineer for the Oscilloscopes. My feedback yet is that we have a very fast Scope even with functions like math, meas or even track. Within the MXO you always have access to the information how fast the Scope currently acquires the waveforms (even with calculated blind time) PS: in our RTO and RTP class we indeed also have a Hardware CDR for Triggering which doesn´t slow down so much

    • @BrianHensleyRULES
      @BrianHensleyRULES Місяць тому

      Appreciate hearing your feedback and i'm listening ;) some good ideas! I run scope design at another big scope company...

  • @Psi117
    @Psi117 Місяць тому

    So ... the display of MXO-4 has resisted to the shock?

    • @AddOhms
      @AddOhms Місяць тому

      Yes. There was not even a mark. The display wasn’t shocked, but I was.

    • @Psi117
      @Psi117 Місяць тому

      @@AddOhms Wow! This is very honorable for R&S. In a lab you can touch the screen of an instrument by mistake with various objects, and is very comfortable to know that some of them can endure such shock.

    • @AddOhms
      @AddOhms Місяць тому

      I mean, it’s just a LCD. Surviving a drop of a few centimeters isn’t the key takeaway about the scope.

  • @neteagle2k9
    @neteagle2k9 Місяць тому

    What a beautifull scope ! BTW I'm crying at the 27k€ price !

    • @AddOhms
      @AddOhms Місяць тому

      I saw a distributor that had the entry level model listed for only $15k! That’s almost 50% less!

    • @neteagle2k9
      @neteagle2k9 Місяць тому

      @@AddOhms it's a bargain :-) !

    • @dMajo_IT
      @dMajo_IT 19 днів тому

      Yes, but apart from the 4 additional channels, the 500MHz higher bandwidth for the top model, and the larger display, the difference is almost imperceptible between the two (MXO4 and MXO5). We have the MXO4@1.5GHz model (with the PK1 bundle included = full optional except for the logic probe) currently on promotion for less than 19k€. And if purchased together, there is also a big discount on the MXO4-B1.

    • @dMajo_IT
      @dMajo_IT 19 днів тому

      And actually the MXO4 is the only scope to allow for 5V offset (also on 50ohm input) on 500uV division. Here it is superior even to the MXO5

    • @AddOhms
      @AddOhms 19 днів тому

      @dMajo_IT Yeah. That’s something I meant to highlight, but forgot. I noticed/realized the difference when I got the MXO 5. But I did so few power supply measurements with it, I didn’t notice it.

  • @NeneRomanovaBGC
    @NeneRomanovaBGC Місяць тому

    Why is so much of electronics just picking random value components?

    • @AddOhms
      @AddOhms Місяць тому

      Because in engineering there is no best or perfect answer. There are always trade-offs to consider. Some are critical, some are not.

  • @technical5880
    @technical5880 2 місяці тому

    am adicted to this channal.

  • @lockercoin3693
    @lockercoin3693 2 місяці тому

    nice vids

  • @fjonesjones2
    @fjonesjones2 2 місяці тому

    Great informative Video many thanks... just subscribed.. 🥳🥳🥳

  • @dreamfly555
    @dreamfly555 2 місяці тому

    FQP30N06L is obsolete? What's a good substitute?

    • @AddOhms
      @AddOhms 2 місяці тому

      DMT6009LCT

  • @gedeon1980yt
    @gedeon1980yt 2 місяці тому

    what is the difference between a voltage regulator and a zener diode?

    • @AddOhms
      @AddOhms 2 місяці тому

      Voltage regulators actively (and accurately) regulate voltage. Zeners are passive, so they drift under various conditions. Watch: Voltage Dividers as Regulators ?! | AO #22 ua-cam.com/video/-kEh0TYjYYE/v-deo.html

  • @lostmyhare
    @lostmyhare 2 місяці тому

    Since you mentioned the 78xx and 79xx rectifiers around 2:25:00 I wonder if you know the answer to this... power supplies found in some of the macs have a C78N05 used for regulating -5V output from the supply. But this part isn't well known today. Two supplies I've seen these in are the TDK 699-0153 (looks like Apple PN) and the Astec AA16251 (both are also very similar to the GS supply except -12V is not an output so GS supply can be used in their place). Trying to find a replacement for the regulator but am not sure what would be correct. Is 78N05 a negative input/output like you said is true of the 79series? I believe I probed a working supply (been a while so maybe not) IIRC I found -6V on pin2 and -5 on pin3 and p1 tied to ground. -6.3V seems a tad low for -5 out but whatever. This would also not follow the 78xx/79xx naming convention. Any idea what the N in the middle 78N05 indiecates? I know the trick to have positive regulator output negative voltage by moving ground, but the boards don't appear wired in that way.

    • @AddOhms
      @AddOhms 2 місяці тому

      No idea. But Google searching it seems to confirm it’s a positive regulator.

  • @TheOleHermit
    @TheOleHermit 2 місяці тому

    Very cool! Been struggling with most of these issues, while trying to design my 2nd PCB/1st 4 layer PCB. 72 year old U of YT student. 🙄 Thanks to the KiCad developers for their efforts to make makers' lives easier. 👍

  • @EngineerMikeF
    @EngineerMikeF 2 місяці тому

    That this video gets right to the point (except for the moss joke) & has only 62k thins up out of 3.7M view's says a lot about the "average" YT watcher, so lazy they won't hit a like button to save their soul.

  • @fredrikviklund5067
    @fredrikviklund5067 2 місяці тому

    Hi there, hello! :-) Just wanted to say I appreciate the edited subtitles!

  • @Ravi-ot6xj
    @Ravi-ot6xj 2 місяці тому

    how does a fan turn in a single direction on a ac current?

    • @AddOhms
      @AddOhms 2 місяці тому

      induction.

  • @bflmpsvz870
    @bflmpsvz870 2 місяці тому

    Dreamy. Need to win in lotto today.

  • @SunilSundar
    @SunilSundar 3 місяці тому

    Why are you using the symbol for the ATmega168A-AU in your schematic instead of the ATmega328A-AU? Thanks

    • @AddOhms
      @AddOhms 3 місяці тому

      The pinout is the same. The difference is memory.

  • @DeadsupraEE3
    @DeadsupraEE3 3 місяці тому

    I feel personally attacked in that last part. 😡 I was just typing in the comments "when is v9 out" when that part played.... 😥

    • @AddOhms
      @AddOhms 3 місяці тому

      So far, their major releases usually come in the first calendar quarter of the year.

  • @halcyonramirez6469
    @halcyonramirez6469 3 місяці тому

    Why is it bad for the supply to short the ground? Is it because it damages the ground? If this were the case?

    • @AddOhms
      @AddOhms 3 місяці тому

      It damages the supply and anything between it and ground. Shorts are bad.

    • @halcyonramirez6469
      @halcyonramirez6469 3 місяці тому

      ​@@AddOhms why does this damage the supply?. in my head. current flows from source to ground. why would having no resistor damage the supply?. is ground not just a way to get the current flowing?.. im genuinely perplexed because having strong pressure on a hose doesn't destroy the faucet. so having voltage with no resistor how can it damage the source?.

    • @AddOhms
      @AddOhms 3 місяці тому

      Current flows in a closed loop. Ground is not a thing, it is a reference point and a return path for electric fields. When a short circuit happens, nearly infinite current flows causing everything to heat up, meaning the smallest resistive device in the circuit is going to burn on. Usually a transistor.

  • @brandon_gb
    @brandon_gb 3 місяці тому

    Still the best explainer video of ac and dc to this day.

  • @alejandroperez5368
    @alejandroperez5368 3 місяці тому

    Fillet line command was already available in KiCad7

    • @AddOhms
      @AddOhms 3 місяці тому

      Interesting. That's two features now that I missed in 7.

  • @2ATactical_CEO
    @2ATactical_CEO 3 місяці тому

    This is really cool. I’ve always used an LcR or VNA to take capacitor measurements. Interested in this talk :)

  • @AddOhms
    @AddOhms 3 місяці тому

    bald.ee/mlcc2polymer to sign up for the webinar on April 17, 2024.

  • @Hristian123
    @Hristian123 3 місяці тому

    I knew it! Engineers and bald guys can not be trust!

  • @court2379
    @court2379 4 місяці тому

    Almost like there is a reason to wear safety glasses

  • @darklordzqwerty
    @darklordzqwerty 4 місяці тому

    Hakko solder sucker, expensive but worth it.

    • @AddOhms
      @AddOhms 4 місяці тому

      Doesn’t do well for surface mount d-paks attached to a ground plane.

  • @bald_engineer
    @bald_engineer 4 місяці тому

    Thanks to everyone who played along on April 1st. Although satire, everything in the video is true!